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rthstewart ([personal profile] rthstewart) wrote2010-02-11 10:19 pm
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Towels, Poetry, Rats, Crows, and a Buffalo

Chapter 16 of TQSiT is up, The Rule of Three's 

The well-endowed buffalo whose privates were painted red by a Wing Commander:



I had thought of doing Susan and Tebbitt's reconciliation later, but there isn't that much else this very chatty, seemingly not very substantive chapter.  Consider it, I suppose, the respite, the lighter calm between the storms of what just happened and what is still to come.  Not much left, I think, though the last will likely be in a couple parts. 

As expected, between Susan's snogging in Chapter 15 and The Morning After chapter of Harold and Morgan, I lost some readers.  I knew it would happen, but didn't alter what I intended to do.  Something I have found myself thinking on is how much I like this empowered, adult Susan.  I am finding a feminist sensibility, and maybe it's reawakening in me as well.  I like a character who has feelings, passions, desires, thoughts, and plans, but whose mature wisdom holds it all in place.  I  like that she looks and does not act upon her desires because she thinks of consequences, and weighs benefits and costs.  In contrast to the go, go, go, full steam ahead of Tebbitt, or Mary Russell from Part 1, or even someone like Lucy (I think), Susan looks before the leap, pauses before the step, and weighs her decisions. 

Also, in contrast to the end of Part 1 where after so many chapters I finally began switching to Peter's point of view, here we do the opposite, getting into the heads of Tebbitt and the Colonel (I just can't call him George as in: George considered, George thought.  It sounds so lame). 

Not a lot, I suppose, though given the 3 feet of snow, over 90 CM, we have had here, any writing at all has been miraculous.  The children have been out of school for a week, the government is closed, and the days have constricted to shoveling snow, drying wet clothing,  and trying to stay connected to work.

If there are enough, TQSiT will break 300 which just stuns me, but boy, with the weather being what it has been, that would be almost as nice as a weekend in the sunshine.
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[personal profile] autumnia 2010-02-12 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Another excellent chapter, Ruth. I loved this look inside Tebbitt's head, as we learn more about how he really feels with regards to his duty and Susan. And as for the Colonel, he really has to get past the boundaries of logic and university-taught psychology in order to get the answers he want.

It's a shame you lost some readers, but as you have often reminded us, this isn't your children's Narnia. This is a very adult Narnia that explores mature situations; if one has read the warning, one should have some idea of what to expect.

As I've stated in the past, I love this empowered Susan. We see so many facets to her (as we do with her siblings) and she truly 'lives' here beyond what Lewis has shown us about her personality.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Cap Red just pointed out that she really hopes some of these OCs find the truth eventually. I know people really started to feel that way about Mary Russell as well and got a bit frustrated with her and the situation.

It's something to think about for Part 3 -- what big reveals there will be, with whom, and how.

As for the lost readership, as I said, it's to be expected though I do wonder if other writers get things like this -- certainly my approach is not utterly unique. Critique and even flames really don't bother me at all, but accusations of immorality, well, that's when I look at it all and think, you know, maybe I should just go to the gym or write an article for work instead. I'll stick with it as long as there those who are interested and as long as I have ideas, I suppose.

And I HATE snow. HATE IT HATE HATE HATE HATE IT
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[personal profile] autumnia 2010-02-12 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
And I agree with you about the snow. The only reason I haven't complained is that you folks that are south of us got dumped with a lot more of it than we did! It's very much a role reversal here; I think NYC got around 8" and for the most part, we've dug out enough so the roads are passable.

Ah, I would love if Asim and Richard ever found out the truth. And possibly the Colonel as well. I've wondered a bit if they would all ever end up in the same place (Aslan's Country, Heaven, Paradise) at the end of all things.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
There was a thread on NFFR about how people really read the fan fic for the canon characters and OCs only really to the extent they interact with canon. But there is this other thread of comment I hear, like yours, about how people want those big reveals, one way or another, for the OCs. Add it to the ever growing list of things to be added to Part 3.
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[personal profile] autumnia 2010-02-13 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I did read that thread on the NFFR forums and thought it was interesting. I've never really thought about the exact reason why I read fanfic, but it is true that it's really more about the canon characters than anything else. As for OCs, well, if the OCs appealed to the reader so much during the course of the story then yes, we would want to know more about them. Look at Jalur and Asim for example -- thanks to your reader comments and questions, we got to see more about them in other stories!

(And don't forget about Susan/Lambert reunion too, though it will be a much longer wait for them than the other monarchs and Guards.)

(Anonymous) 2011-01-18 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Accusations of immorality? You?

snigger

snort

laugh

guffaw

Where is morality, if not in responsibility? Is it truly in blind obedience? I think not.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2011-01-18 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Accusations of immorality? You?
Granted, I would prefer that the ladies of the PTA and my neighbors and clients and husband and co-workers not learn of all this fandom stuff. But, yes, in between the cookie baking, crock pot cooking, the homework checking, exercising, walking the dog, tending to work needs as a veteran of the same place of employment since 1994, receiving my first AARP solicitation, and celebrating 20+ years of Christian marriage, I also have time, from about 5:45 to 6:00 AM for immorality.

[identity profile] ilysia-039.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Alas, I won't have time to read and review tonight, but I promise you a most lengthy and (most likely) squee-ful review on the morrow.

...

And now that there has been a mention of the defacing of buffalo, I regret even more my disastrous lack of time.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
When you get the time will be lovely, though Sailor Sol has made the excellent point of where the paint came from...

[identity profile] min023.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hey Rth. Good to know that you're doing OK - I had been somewhat concerned. Had heard about the snow and the power outages around DC (a speaker at a conference I was at last week got stuck at home, and then didn't have the power to broadcast out, which was the next solution after being physically present). Anyway, been flying in and out for a week, but I promise a proper R&R in a few days when it all stops.

I'm saddened for your sake that you lost readers, but selfishly, I wouldn't have you change your writing. You are going somewhere different, and as far as I'm concerned, that sort of original thinking and writing should be celebrated, not condemned.

Just my two cents
Cheers : )
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It has been GHASTLY. Power outages, downed wires, and SNOW SNOW SNOW everywhere. Now there are subway train derailments and ARGH! I hope your own schedule calms down -- I feel your pain!

Yes, right, fan fiction... As I just said to Autumnia and to Miniver, the flames and critiques don't really bother me that much. I'll keep writing, I suppose, so long as there are some who appreciate it.

(Anonymous) 2010-02-12 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I am surprised you are losing readers actually, Rth. I wouldn't probably chalk it up to your writing so much as this time is a busy time. Maybe I am only speaking for myself and from what information people I know from other countries (most especially the US) tell me, but between snow storms and school and extra long hours at work, that could potentially be more of the reason why?

In my case, at the very least, that's the real reason for my lack of response to this. I do read each thing you put out, but I never find the time to post about my thoughts. Very busy indeed. Hmm, maybe I'm starting to go back to my lurker ways. I shall endeavor to review properly though during the weekend, if time will permit it.

My thoughts on chapters I haven't reviewed yet will be in my actual reviews, don't worry~ :P

- Lhanae
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice to you again Lhanae! Nah, the drop offs are not due to business, or they might be, goodness knows it's been awful here in the States. The drop offs I'm referring to are those who leave for personal reasons regarding story content. I won't belabor the point -- you can read about it above. I've been thrilled with the kind and thoughtful responses I do receive. I'm ever so grateful for those who stick with it!!

[identity profile] metonomia.livejournal.com 2010-02-12 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Writing my review right now. So much love for Tebbitt. And if you can't call the Colonel "George"...I can! Love George! Love them all!

Free Susan!

[identity profile] varnafinde.livejournal.com 2010-02-14 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I have posted my review - contributing to a nice number ...

I join those who hope for the main OCs to know the truth.

There are two kinds of OCs in my opinion. There are those that are created because the author likes them and then pushed into the story somehow (the Mary Sues are a prime example of those, but not all of them are Mary Sues).

Then there are those who surround canon characters naturally, and belong in the story. You very easily get those if you develop minor canon characters, like the early history of Caspian IX and his brother Miraz, or one of the seven Lords from Dawn Treader. But you also get them by expanding on the lives of the canon characters, like what you do here with the Pevensies in our world - the people they meet under their new circumstances, like the Russels, or like Tebbit and the Colonel (I prefer him as the Colonel, too). Or like all the Guards back in Narnia.

I prefer the second group to the first - possibly because with the definition I'm using, the likelihood of Mary Sues is that much bigger ...

[identity profile] andi-horton.livejournal.com 2010-02-15 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Then there are those who surround canon characters naturally, and belong in the story.

This, this, this! It's why I have such love for and take such genuine interest (whether for good or ill!) in so many of your OCs, rth. It's because they started as peripheral beings, merely related to the Main Attraction; only after their introduction did they grow into their own selves and become interesting as a result of this. They are NOT thrust on us by force, as already-accomplished fact, as things we must love because you do too! Rather you introduce them gently, develop them nicely, and I am not at all offended by them. Except when I should be. Teehee.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-15 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh, thank you. I wish I could say it was brilliantly pre-meditated, but it's not. I'm making up most of this as I go.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-15 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
That's so nice of you to chime in. Thank you for the compliment about the OCs. As I've posted somewhere? Sometimes I give them a lot of thought -- Asim and the Russells were all very careful constructs, while others are invited completely on the fly like Jalur the Tiger and Evil Banker Morgan.
It did occur to me as I've been thinking of the next chapter (I'd not intended to pull Asim in so directly to the next chapter, but rather to just cross reference the fact that we are now back to the beginning.) But given that he has seen the "Narnia" in Susan's letter and possibly "Aslan" and now just seen Edmund's telegram -- been to N. Seen A, that he must surely be wondering at the connection this same evening as Peter reads the letters. He will be with Polly and Digory and their elliptical conversation, Polly will have to tell Richard something about why Peter is not there... and... ARGH! I have a whole chapter here!!!
Hmmm. back to thinking.

[identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com 2010-02-14 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, I just posted curiosity of What If Susan Told Everyone Her History and it appears from what everyone is saying over here that I'm not the only one! Although I mostly think that she's probably considered it, and discounted the idea of announcing her background as being alienating to her allies and therefore of no benefit. Kind of reminds me of this comic, which succinctly says about everything I might say in Narnia fanfic for the next several years, and possibly much other fanfic. (Tangentially, I started writing the Sarah Jane/Susan fic. It's going decently. Hopefully I can sum up the willpower to actually finish it in a reasonable amount of time.)

We got some snow down here, and it will probably snow again tonight, but not as much as you guys got. Hope you can manage to get back to work and get the kids out of the house soon!
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-15 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Oh that is a brilliant comic. And... Sarah Jane & Susan xover is so incredibly awesome I can't believe it. Hint? itty bitty hint?

[identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com 2010-02-15 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Better than a hint, I'll give you a bit of a teaser! I imagine they would catch each other staring at something not unlike this thing here (the Elsenham Pyxis) and it would be very much like the chessmen moment in Prince Caspian, for both of them.


"A lot of the artifacts here were sent out to people's houses during the war," said a voice fairly close behind her, and Sarah Jane wondered how the woman had got so close without her noticing: the ability of sensing someone approaching had kept her alive (if not out of the hands of captors) for a number of years, after all. The woman continued, unaware of Sarah Jane's self-examination, "I wonder sometimes if that's how this piece slipped in here, if whoever kept the collection it with which it returned lost a memento of their travels."

"I don't think there are many people who could have picked up this as a souvenir," Sarah Jane responded.

"Indeed not." The woman moved from behind Sarah Jane and around the display, so they could see each other over the pedestal. "And not many could recognize it as being from a different world, could they?"
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-15 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my... oh my.... oh.... wow

[identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com 2010-02-15 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
*is pleased*
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[personal profile] lady_songsmith 2010-02-21 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
So, I've been meaning to leave a meaningful review or ten for your fics for some time now. The thing is, every time I've started to write one, it's gone off into long-winded rambling tangents. I decided that what I needed to do was get down everything I wanted to say about your work and then organize it into something resembling coherency. This, of course, made it A Project, and therefore subject to procrastination. But having just done another re-read of the Stone Gryphon, both parts, and this time remembering to keep a notebook to hand, I have finally done it. And... it's kinda long. Really quite long. 5 pages at 10pt long. I expect this is probably better off emailed, given LJ comment-length restrictions, but if you like to encourage discussion in your entries I would happily post it; it breaks up into 5 chunks that could each get their own comment or two.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-21 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
How lovely!! I'm such an egotistical sot and am procrastinating on 17 (which I keep referring to as 16) and am insatiably curious about people and stuff that I would love to fritter away time reading and commenting on your entries! I don't know that anyone else would, but it would be lovely to start a conversation over here and perhaps others will join in! Thank you so very much!

I'm going to open a new entry for your entry and we shall take it from there! You are so very kind! Thank you!

[identity profile] metonomia.livejournal.com 2010-02-21 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
For what it's worth, I vote YES on the posting here! I absolutely adore reading other people's reviews, especially when they promise to be as epic as this one.