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rthstewart ([personal profile] rthstewart) wrote2010-02-21 01:48 pm
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The final observations (for now) by [livejournal.com profile] lady_songsmith 

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I am rather fascinated by P's knowledge of bees. Talking Bees? N tends, as RR muses in the museum, to 'charismatic and mammalian' species for Talking Beasts, o I can't picture Bees. Does this knowledge come via Bears? Dryads? Centaur scholars?

 Definitely sympathize (and giggle every time I read it) with RR's desire to hand P upside down and shake him. There is quite a lot locked up in that brain, and for a scientist it must be an impossible temptation.

 I have to giggle at P's comparison of the Scotus essay to his warrior training. It does rather feel that way sometimes -- particularly the cudgel about the head part.

 The fact that MAR knows that people -- men especially -- around her study and teach M. Management: I love it. I almost want to hear her discussion of hips. Almost.

 Adore the L/E interaction ("in my room, on my floor..."); it captures wonderfully both decades of living in one another pockets and yet fitting into teenaged British life.

 I presume, reading this, that the actual letters were somewhat more fantastical and we are actually seeing through S's eyes with a Narnian overlay rather than reading them verbatim -- otherwise I think very little of the censors! I know, for the story purposes it had to be clear; please don't take that a criticism.

 Compared to pig intestines, grasshoppers, and fish eyes, the HK tea must have seemed practically mundane. MAR never stood a chance of discomfiting P, did she?

L and the Moose song!! Now -- did she know was P was reading or did E tell her to sing it just then?

 Just out of curiosity, did S ever use any of those treatments for drunk young men on her brothers?

 I cry so hard when E talks about Aslan's Country.

Eustace and the High... Peter. Poor lad, his worldview's really gone 180, hasn't it? Peter may have to get used to a new title.

 E's thoughts on P's vegetarianism -- I didn't get the impression that P had gone veg, only that he appreciated veg cuisine (other than boiled carrots ala H&A). Certainly the HK tea included meats, and I thought we saw him eating meat somewhere later as well. Did I miss some transition?

 Reverse psychology on the Otters -- nothing to say but SQUEE! Also in that chapter (set of chapters?), love P's mental notes on how to go about ensuring his decrees to the Songbirds will be enforced, by delegating to E and S.

 L getting three sets of marital advice is wonderful. I hope we'll see/hear more about Aidan. I'm very curious.

 E's -- or Harold's -- note from the LI is fantastic.

 S and P both had, in their Guard, someone who basically spoiled them for romance, as you address in TRG. (Once upon a time I was going somewhere with that thought, but I've totally lost the thread of it.) I desperately want to know the rest of Lambert's story.

 Polly and the English Maiden (ha!) aunts -- I have met a few women who would have made excellent English Maiden (ha!) Aunts (except for the slight problem of not being English), and Polly has the right of it. I would also add that a battalion of Jewish Grandmothers would give anyone pause, and in fact on further reflection I have to wonder if the reason men have spent centuries keeping women out of warfare is because the women are too damn terrifying and would end all wars in a single day or a bloodbath or both.

 I can't help but agree with P that unleashing L on England is a scary, scary thing. It's a shame she doesn't get the chance -- I won't rant, I won't -- but I suspect one Lucy the Valiant could but that battalion of English Maiden (ha!) Aunts to shame.

 On the subject of censored books, perhaps I'm too much a product of the 21st century, but I've read Chaucer and it's hardly what I'd call objectionable. Even the bawdiest bits aren't much worse than Shakespeare's comedies. I'm sure given the research you've put into this story, it was actually restricted, but I'm scratching my head over why. (Of course, I also agree with E that Lady Chatterly is pretty boring as erotica goes.)

E, possibly because of the association with Asim and the WW2/WW1 parallels, reminds me strongly of the character of Ramses from Elizabeth Peter's Amelia Peabody novels. If you've not read them -- this is a compliment, though from the perspectives of the other characters in both stories, probably a rather dubious one given the amount of mayhem that tends to accrue around such characters.


It has little bearing on the story, but as a point of my own curiosity and pondering, I wonder how you imagine magic in N to function? We have such tantalizing hints of its presence, regular and accepted, in N and yet so little evidence of its use, that one is hard-pressed to reconcile the existence of things like Hags and Cornelius's dabblings with the distrust of all but Divine Rich textmagic that laces the books. I see very few authors trying to address this discrepancy, so your mention of Eirene as a 'minor mage' and later reference to other Centaur mages intrigues me; I would love to hear your view on the subject.

...and that's all she wrote. For now.

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[personal profile] lady_songsmith 2010-02-21 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the distinct impression I've just created a monster. (Additional scary thought: Edmund mentored by Ramses?)

[identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com 2010-02-22 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
OH. SHIT. You have read my brain; namely that Russell and Holmes met up with Ramses and yes, later in life, they are mentoring Edmund. AND THEN THE WORLD BLEW UP.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-22 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hands Kate a keyboard and caffeine and band aids for the brain bleed. I've been sitting her thinking of 3 sentence drabbles in which a child Ramses tries to pick Edmund's pocket at a bazaar because he wants to meet him since he is obviously not who he pretends to be and thinks this would be a good introduction. Then the two of them, on a lark realize that those two people in Arab dress are really an older British man and a younger British woman and not the Bedus they are pretending to be and so they try to pick Holmes' pockets and pinch Mary on the bum for fun. Hilarity ensues with no one being who they pretend to be. Except possible Ramses, who finished the conversation with, "I'll tell my mother and you would really not want that."
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[personal profile] lady_songsmith 2010-02-22 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Switching up the ages has me now contemplating Ramses in Narnia, and now my brain is bleeding.
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[identity profile] rthstewart.livejournal.com 2010-02-22 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Switching up the ages has me now contemplating Ramses in Narnia, and now my brain is bleeding.
Ramses in Calormen....
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[personal profile] lady_songsmith 2010-02-22 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
I think we've just discovered the REAL reason Narnia was destroyed in Last Battle.

*props chin in hand and contemplates the horror with more glee than is strictly decent* Y'know, I almost didn't mention the Ramses thing. I thought it was silly.

[identity profile] intrikate88.livejournal.com 2010-02-22 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think this may be the place to suggest (instead of dropping such an epic into the already overflowing hands of Andrea and me) that perhaps we outline a faint plot and create an lj community where everyone can write vignettes and stories of the world where Ramses, Edmund, Russell, Holmes, and everyone else are running about.

But Andrea is telling me I should sleep on this idea, as comms can be complicated and involve people maintaining them, a task for which I certainly don't volunteer, but... well, here: it is in the public forum now.

[identity profile] andi-horton.livejournal.com 2010-02-22 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
^ And she knows that she does not volunteer me for maintenence purposes either.

(and I am almost positive she would have taken my advice to sleep on it more seriously if I hadn't been frothing at the mouth over a hockey game all night, causing her to doubt in the ordered balance of my mind)
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[personal profile] lady_songsmith 2010-02-22 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes! Let's see, Ramses would be in his 50s during WW2, wouldn't he? He was born between the first two books, so '86, '87 ish? But I don't think he's out of the field -- takes after his uncle, no doubt. Highly placed, of course, though probably about three people actually know that...